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Anónimo
Anónimo
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Aiya!!
Bueno, mi pregunta es...¿sale en algun sitio como o de que estan hechas las lembas o es un secreto exclusivo de los elfos?
y...¿cual es el alimento que vosotros creeis que se le parece mas? Yo siempre he creido que el mazapan, siempre me ha recordado a ellas y no se por que (manias que una tiene)...
Bueno, espero vuestras respuestas...

¡¡tenna rato!!



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Anónimo
Anónimo
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#1 Respondiendo a: Anónimo

Aiya!!
Bueno, mi pregunta es...¿sale en algun sitio como o de que estan hechas las lembas o es un secreto exclusivo de los elfos?
y...¿cual es el alimento que vosotros creeis que se le parece mas? Yo siempre he creido que el mazapan, siempre me ha recordado a ellas y no se por que (manias que u...

Pos

Es un secreto que solo los elfos conocen y no se dice su receta o composicón en ningún sitio que yo conozca(jejejeej no sea que este en algun libro :P)

Las lembas pa mi son como el pan del camino (es decir pan integral) o galletas de camino(es decir galletas con azucar y frutos secos que dan mucha energia) pero no las veo como mazapan .... El mazapan es más no se como un pastel mientras que las lembas son más como galletas

Es mi opinión que conste

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Anónimo
Anónimo
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#1 Respondiendo a: Anónimo

Aiya!!
Bueno, mi pregunta es...¿sale en algun sitio como o de que estan hechas las lembas o es un secreto exclusivo de los elfos?
y...¿cual es el alimento que vosotros creeis que se le parece mas? Yo siempre he creido que el mazapan, siempre me ha recordado a ellas y no se por que (manias que u...

consulte...

la guia de Robert Foster de LA TM , y no viene nada de su composicion. Quizas en la de David Day venga la receta...jejeje. Se supone que es un Pan de Camino pero con mas sabor. Me inclno a una relacion con biblico Maná.


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Eviore
Eviore
Desde: 05/03/2002

#1 Respondiendo a: Anónimo

Aiya!!
Bueno, mi pregunta es...¿sale en algun sitio como o de que estan hechas las lembas o es un secreto exclusivo de los elfos?
y...¿cual es el alimento que vosotros creeis que se le parece mas? Yo siempre he creido que el mazapan, siempre me ha recordado a ellas y no se por que (manias que u...

Pues...

En el People of Middle-earth viene un texto sobre la Lembas, pero no creo que sea una receta la verdad
“¡Matad gorgûn! ¡Matad orcos! Los Hombres Salvajes no conocen palabras más placenteras -le respondió Ghân- ¡Ahuyentad el aire malo y la oscuridad con el hierro brillante!”

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Anónimo
Anónimo
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Pues...

En el People of Middle-earth viene un texto sobre la Lembas, pero no creo que sea una receta la verdad

Por si ayuda algo...

XV.

OF LEMBAS.

For the association of this brief work, extant in a single manuscript,
with the Dangweth Pengolod see p. 395. It is a finely written text of
two pages, in style like that of the fine manuscript of the Dangweth
which it accompanies, but not of the same quality, and on thin paper.
My father introduced some illumination at its beginning in red ball-
point pen, and with the same pen wrote at the head of the first page,
above the title Of Lembas: 'Mana i-coimas in-Eldaron?' maquente
Elendil (the same question as appears on the cardboard folder enclos-
ing the two texts, p. 395). At the same time he added quotation marks
at the beginning and end of the text, showing that it is the answer of
Pengolod to AElfwine's question, 'What is the coimas of the Eldar?' It
seems possible that these additions in ball-point pen were added later,
to make the text into a companion piece to the Dangweth; but there is
in any case no evidence for date, beyond the limits of 1951 and 1959
(p. 395).

Of Lembas.

'This food the Eldar alone knew how to make. It was made for
the comfort of those who had need to go upon a long journey
in the wild, or of the hurt whose life was in peril. Only these
were permitted to use it. The Eldar did not give it to Men, save
only to a few whom they loved, if they were in great need.*
The Eldar say that they first received this food from the Valar
in the beginning of their days in the Great Journey. For it was
made of a kind of corn which Yavanna brought forth in the
fields of Aman, and some she sent to them by the hand of
Orome for their succour upon the long march.

(* This was not done out of greed or jealousy, although at no time in
Middle-earth was there great store of this food; but because the Eldar
had been commanded to keep this gift in their own power, and not to
make it common to the dwellers in mortal lands. For it is said that, if
mortals eat often of this bread, they become weary of their mortality,
desiring to abide among the Elves, and longing for the fields of Aman,
to which they cannot come.)

Since it came from Yavanna, the queen, or the highest among
the elven-women of any people, great or small, had the keeping
and gift of the lembas, for which reason she was called massanie
or besain: the Lady, or breadgiver.(1)
Now this corn had in it the strong life of Aman, which it
could impart to those who had the need and right to use the
bread. If it was sown at any season, save in frost, it soon
sprouted and grew swiftly, though it did not thrive in the
shadow of plants of Middle-earth and would not endure winds
that came out of the North while Morgoth dwelt there. Else it
needed only a little sunlight to ripen; for it took swiftly and
multiplied all the vigour of any light that fell on it.
The Eldar grew it in guarded lands and sunlit glades; and they
gathered its great golden ears, each one, by hand, and set no
blade of metal to it. The white haulm was drawn from the earth
in like manner, and woven into corn-leep (2) for the storing of the
grain: no worm or gnawing beast would touch that gleaming
straw, and rot and mould and other evils of Middle-earth did
not assail it.
From the ear to the wafer none were permitted to handle this
grain, save those elven-women who were called Yavannildi
(or by the Sindar the Ivonwin),(3) the maidens of Yavanna; and
the art of the making of the lembas, which they learned of the
Valar, was a secret among them, and so ever has remained.'
Lembas is the Sindarin name, and comes from the older form
lenn-mbass 'journey-bread'. In Quenya it was most often
named coimas which is 'life-bread'.(4)

Quente Quengoldo.

NOTES.

1. In the story of Turin it is said of Melian's gift of lembas to Beleg
the Bowman (The Silmarillion p. 202) that it was 'wrapped in
leaves of silver, and the threads that bound it were sealed at the
knots with the seal of the Queen, a wafer of white wax shaped as
a single flower of Telperion; for according to the customs of the
Eldalie the keeping and giving of lembas belonged to the Queen
alone. In nothing did Melian show greater favour to Turin than in
this gift; for the Eldar had never before allowed Men to use this
waybread, and seldom did so again.'
With 'massanie or besain' cf. the entry in the Etymologies,
V.372, stem MBAS 'knead': Quenya masta, Noldorin bast, 'bread';
also the words lembas, coimas, explained at the end of the present

text as 'journey-bread' and 'life-bread'. Above the ain of besain is
faintly pencilled oneth. sc. besoneth.
In using the word Lady here my father no doubt had an eye to
its origin in Old English hlaef-dige, of which the first element is
hlaf (modern English loaf) with changed vowel, and the second a
derivative of the stem dig- 'knead' (to which dough is ultimately
related); cf. lord from hlaf-weard 'bread-keeper'.
2. haulm: the stalks of cultivated plants left when the ears or pods
have been gathered; corn-leeps: leep (leap) is an old dialect word
for a basket (Old English leap).
3. Ivonwin: the Noldorin (i.e. later Sindarin) form Ivann for Yavanna
appears in the Etymologies, V.399, stem YAB 'fruit'.
4. This was written at the same time as the rest of the manuscript, but
set in as printed, and was excluded from the quotation marks
added later to the body of the text. The words Quente Quengoldo
('Thus spoke Pengolod') also belong to the time of writing.


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